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Date: 2010-03-24 10:26:31 Direct Link: be warry of ebay electronics.....   Reply

especially ipods

http://www.tomsguide.com/us/eBay-ipod-malware-auction,news-6234.html

apparently scammers figured out they could get ipods and other storage based electronics, and fill them with viruses and malware that steal your credit card number, when you connect the them to your computer.... LOL

I mean, the article says ipods, but you could just as easily do the same with flash drives, hard drives, or other portable music/media players....

 


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Date: 2010-04-08 18:25:33 Direct Link: Re: be warry of ebay electronics.....   Reply

I just fell victim to cc fraud and identity theft. Biggest pain in the ass ever! I received a letter 2 weeks ago from a company I've never heard of saying their systems were comprimised and my information was requested and given out.

I called my bank and they said they never heard of the company, so I called my credit card company and someone had changed my address, so I wouldn't receive my bill and they managed to rack up $20000 on the card. I couldn't fucking believe it.

So right now I am going through the process of straightening this out, and making sure they aren't trying to get more credit in my name.

Be careful out there, there are sleaze balls all over trying to fuck you out of money and anything else they can!


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Date: 2010-04-09 11:46:01 Direct Link: Re: be warry of ebay electronics.....   Reply

yeah, online use of any  financial information is always a risk.... no matter how safe the web site claims to be, there are too many points of failure in the chain of security for anyone to tell you with an honest straight face that its safe....

theres the client(I.e. your computer), which could have a virus, doing who knows what(monitoring key strokes, capturing cc data to send elsewhere, etc)

the network(what connects you  to the internet), which could have any number of security holes in it.... in a network thats not your own, you don't know whats goin on.... for all you know, they capture and log every packet that leaves out to the internet, which could leave your cc data exposed for someone to decrypt.... and if the network is your own, and you have more computers on the network, a virus on another computer could capture your traffic and send it elsewhere....

The internet, once your traffic leaves your network, you have no control what so ever as to what route it takes to get to where its goin... again, your traffic may be succeptible to any number of traffic capturing/monitoring devices....

DNS(how your computer translates google.com to it's internet usable ip address), your dns could be poisoned(your computer, your network, or your dns server could have malicious dns records that could cause a man in the middle style capture of your traffic).... again, you have little to no controll over dns.... I've seen computer viruses add static dns entries to computers and even linksys routers.... theres a little known method of using dns to capture traffic called "dns based routing"..... it essentially tells your computer that x.x.x.x is the ip address of the site your connecting to, but its not the correct address.... its actually a malicious web site, that redirects your traffic to the real web site.... capturing your cc data in between....

The server and network where your cc gets processed.... this network has to be pci compliant(payment card industry compliant), and the server has to be pci compliant with how it handles processing requests.... so once again, the safety of your data is in someone elses hands....

and finally, the credit card companys network.... which again, who knows whats goin on with it....

theres sooooo many spots in the chain of events that make up an online transaction that could lead to the compromise of your data....

online shopping by and large is a gamble at best....

I've said it before, and I'll say it again.... your best bet buying anything from an online retailer is to call your order in over the phone and ask for the first and last name of the person taking your order, and document it.... and by all means, if your going to place orders through the web.... keep your online orders spaced out over a period of a few months(place an order, keep an eye on your credit for a month or 2 to make sure no one jacked your info and started using it, then once you feel your info had not been hijacked, go ahead and place another order)... if you make too many orders and your info gets stolen, its gonna be much harder to find out who was at fault for your info being stolen and what web site was being used when it happened...

it sucks that you have to go through shit like that... I have some friends who went through similar experiences.... one guy I went to college with had to drop out of school, sell his house, and lost his job.... all because someone else used his credit to buy a house, take out a loan for a car, and get a few credit cards.... the bank foreclosed on his house before he could get it straightened out, because of that mess, his student loan was revoked by the school, and he lost his job because credit collectors called his job and harrassed his boss about docking his paycheck to make payments on a loan he didn't take out.... he ended up having a 5 yr credit freeze put on his social security number, and from what I heard the last time I talked to him... they've arrested 4 people trying to use his credit.... what happens is your number gets put into a list of other stolen numbers and is sold on the black market.... a list of cc #'s sells for quite a bit of money... so any number of people could have your credit data....

not sure what the laws in canada are about fixing identity theft, but here in the states it's a pretty big pain in the ass.... not sure if canada has the ability to put a freeze or lock on someones credit..... in the states you can lock your credit so that if someone tries to open credit in your name, the police will get called to what ever location is trying to use it(car dealership, bank, real estate agency, etc).... and if its not you, they will arest who ever it is...

 

 

 


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Date: 2010-04-10 04:04:30 Direct Link: Re: be warry of ebay electronics.....   Reply

I am not sure how they handle it, the cc company would really give me any info on the process,, they told me because Im not liable for what happened they can't divulge any information because it could taint the investigation.

 

In Canada there are two gov't lenders that are responsible for all credit in the country, because the dirtbag was able to change my address with my cc company, the address was automatically changed with the 2 gov't lenders. So I had to send 2 pieces of picture id and a bill from a utility company to confirm my real address and to have a fraud alert on my profile.

 

This guy is able to change my address with no problems, and now I have to jump through hoop to get it back!

 

So this is going to be ongoing for many years.

 


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