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Date: 2009-11-11 08:38:22 Direct Link: church and science collide!   Reply

is this the church's way of trying to stay relevent?

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hf92aHEwYT87J1XPP4JrIusKBT-AD9BSTO1G1

the catholic church burned people at the stake for believing life could exist on other plannets, and now they are trying to find a way to fit god into that equation.... kinda puzzeling to say the least....

seems to be a desperate pitch to hold onto followers in the science erra.....

what do you guys think? is it a pitch to try and stay relevent in a world ruled by science or what?


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Date: 2009-11-26 11:54:39 Direct Link: Re: church and science collide!   Reply

 Wow, very contraversial topic.   I dont know where I read this but in order to invade and conquer a nation sucessfully  you must never attack, suppress or remove religious beliefs. 

 

I see this happening more and more every day. Attempts to remove people from their faith.

 

I do think the Catholic Church has lost a lot of support  from the 80's to today. People prior to this era voted the same way every year and had a close minded view on the world and its origins. Lots of scare tactics from Gov't made people embrace their religion. Today the internet has allowed people the option to lots of information and answers to questions that before had to be answered by religion.

 

Science has clearly left a lot of questions to be answered as well. Carbon dating is as reliable as a polygraph test. As far as evolution goes, there are still big gaps in  the chain. Believing in evolution is still a leap of faith as is monotheism.

 

We dont fukin know...(period)

Yes the Catholic Church is grasping at straws to try and build there once mighty empire. Back then though people were killing each other for anything, yes the church did its fare share and so did every monarchy that ever existed. Its all about power.

 

The Catholic Church might be looking into Eric Von Danigan's allegations from years ago. God was a higher power, If primitive man(primitive in terms of society not monkeys) saw a species show up in a flying object, they might look at them as gods. (Chariot of The Gods)


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Date: 2009-11-28 15:30:20 Direct Link: Re: church and science collide!   Reply

I've always wondered what would really happen if aliens did come to earth, and all these world leaders tried to push their beliefs on them..... kinda like that day the earth stood still movie..... I could totally see that happening... aliens get pissed when we try to tell them whats up, and just zap us out of existence...

I mean.... statistically, with how big the universe is, and how old it is.... there has to be life elsewhere..... whether that life is inteligent or not, no one can say for sure.... but if  statistics mean anything there very likely is life on other planets....

isn't it funny how Interpretation can be twisted to fit anything?

at one point, it was interpreted by the bible that the earth was flat.... that changed, when science proved otherwise...

and now, I guess they are pre-empting alien life forms fitting into the bible, so they aren't stuck lookin like a bunch of asshats if/when aliens do come to earth like they were when people found out the earth wasn't flat?

a guy I talked to about religion once told me, that anyone can interpret anything imaginable out of the bible.... if science proved god not to exist at all, you sure as shit bet, they'd find some way to fit that into the bible...

 


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Date: 2009-11-28 17:47:35 Direct Link: Re: church and science collide!   Reply

Just look at how the new testament was put together, and who put it together. 

I dont think the Roman Catholic Church is worried about egg on their face, because aliens are going to land tommorrow, because anything short of aliens landing on earth and holding a news conference, can be denied and mocked.

I would think they were jumping on a bandwagon if they tried to get involved with the evolution theory.(unless they say adam and eve were monkeys)

 

There is something that cant be denied by the church and that is space and its vastness, history  and possibilities of life outside our little planet. GOD is not someone or something that could be pointed out in a criminal lineup. Aliens could have created life on earth, and ancient man refer to them as GOD, who knows. The Catholic religion is about the son of god Jesus and his life and his apostles teachings 2000 yrs. ago prior to that its about the jewish teaching of monetheism.

Of course the bible can be interpreted many different ways, the original scrolls that make up the bible were interpreted differently by the original christian sects.(gnostics) and taught differently in there own villages. This  is apparent today because of the million different Christan religions.

Science is still in its infancy, and isnt going to prove anything for some time, its just going to keep putting bandaids on all of the world problems. If science cant keep us from dying, religion is always going to be strong in the world.

 

I will repeat this again, anything short of preventing death, will always be the down fall of science in regard to religion. Maybe some people are comfortable thinking there is nothing beyond this life, but most arent.

 I just dont see where the church and the bible have closed the door on the origins of god as it may relate to space,  I believe science isnt an enemy of religion the only thing threating religion is evolution and there have been alot of shady frauds in the race to prove evolution by the Darwinists. If science proves man evolved from monkey's without dispute then thats the only downfall of all religion

That hadron collider thingy is cool though, that opens up another interesting door for science

 

science didnt prove the earths shape,, explorology did

  

Are you an atheist?

 

 


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Date: 2009-11-29 09:53:31 Direct Link: Re: church and science collide!   Reply

as for evolution being an enemy of religion..... the guy I was talkin about before, said theres even ways to fit that into the bible... its all interpretation.... anyone can twist any of those words to be something literal or metaphorically related to anything that doesn't fit in the bible...

as for being an athiest? I would more or less say agnostic.... I just don't feel with how large the universe is, that primitive people could have figured out where everything came from... god didn't write religion... man did..

but, heres another interesting twist to add to that article....

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/science/space/article6934078.ece

you think maybe, the church knew of this and put that out there to pre-emptively strike down any issues that may arrive from having life on other planets?


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